roddy
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Post by roddy on Nov 27, 2004 17:53:25 GMT
SKINHEAD UNITY
SHARP/RASH/TRAD/TROJAN/HARDCORE/Oi!/SKA/ AFA/ARA,etc,etc. Whatever you call yourself,whatever you listen to,whatever your politics,none of this matters and we should all respect each other as Skinheads and raise ourselves out of the Fascist inspired confusion surrounding the culture. All the infighting only helps the Fascist cause.Instead of each other,fight the real enemy,RACISM. The culture has a history which must be respected and that's why Boneheads will never be a part of it. My take on the SHARP idea was to build a wall between true Skinheads and Boneheads.A dividing line seperating the true culture from the Fascist mutation that is Bonehead.Their side of the divide is built on hatred for non whites.Our side is built on history and respect for our origins. NO RACE,NO NATION,JUST SKINHEADS.
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Post by RobertNetherlands on Jan 15, 2005 14:28:45 GMT
I think the SHARP idea is really good.. Racism is really fucking the whole skinhead scene.. But the question for me is just; are you extremely leftwing if you are an anti facist??? Cause in The Netherlands every sharp is staying with the extremely left wing and they are allso facist, like any extreme politic people...
(sorry, for my bad english)
Cheers, Robert
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Post by roddy on Jan 15, 2005 17:30:40 GMT
But the question for me is just; are you extremely leftwing if you are an anti facist??? Cause in The Netherlands every sharp is staying with the extremely left wing and they are allso facist, like any extreme politic people... No mate we are not extreme except when it comes to racist scum.There is a place for all skinheads with the SHARP attitude.
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Post by Sam Sheppard on Jan 15, 2005 18:01:25 GMT
Hi Roddy,
I agree 99% with your sayings, but facing the facts, the RASH can't be associated to the anti-racist skin family. For sure they are anti-racist but act like the so-called facists they pretend to hunt. Their intolerance is unacceptable, they had never been true to reggae, ska and Oi!... but to some anarcho-alternative-punk and mostly to their extreme politics so far that if we do not agree with'em, we stand to be facists through their narrow minds. This opinion is shared by more people than ever! This is not about politics, but about respect. I've heard that The Oppressed will play in a RASH gig... that's painful for us, I hope you'll understand our sayings. Peace.
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Post by RobertNetherlands on Jan 15, 2005 18:07:05 GMT
No mate we are not extreme except when it comes to racist scum.There is a place for all skinheads with the SHARP attitude. The nazi scum have just put the sharp in an extreme left wing frame I think.. but at all, my respect, allso for the whole band..
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Post by Sam Sheppard on Jan 15, 2005 18:14:53 GMT
The nazi scum have just put the sharp in an extreme left wing frame I think.. but at all, my respect, allso for the whole band.. The guys in your country are not SHARP if they pretend to be (or act like) extreme leftists before being a Skinhead. Politics are personnal and have nothing to do with the skinhead thing, being anti-racist and anti-fascist is not about politics, it's a natural thing for the one that respect the youth and the life.
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Post by roddy on Jan 16, 2005 3:39:29 GMT
The way I see it the only enemy to our culture are racist boneheads.I don't give a fuck what someone listens to or what his politics are.It's only the race hate I see pissing on the way of life.RASH stand against bonehead scum so they get my respect.
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Post by bOIcott on Jan 17, 2005 12:01:07 GMT
Hi everyone!! Respect for what you have done! I just want to say ... what does it mean RASH SHARP AFA and the other ... The problem is that we have a common enemy The Nazi Shits...and their boyfriends the coppers(the state). Extreme, left and right are relative things. Fight the fuckin Nazi cunts!!!
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Post by fergieskin on Jan 19, 2005 15:06:42 GMT
you do know afa aren't skinheads.
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Post by roddy on Jan 19, 2005 15:39:06 GMT
you do know afa aren't skinheads. I guess he means skinheads who support AFA and what AFA stands for.
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Post by fergieskin on Jan 19, 2005 23:16:15 GMT
I guess he means skinheads who support AFA and what AFA stands for.
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Post by petey on Feb 9, 2005 22:34:40 GMT
The way I see it the only enemy to our culture are racist boneheads.I don't give a fuck what someone listens to or what his politics are.It's only the race hate I see pissing on the way of life.RASH stand against bonehead scum so they get my respect. so let me get this figured out, its wrong to be rascist but its NOT wrong to be homophobic or sexist? because I could have sworn you only said it was wrong to be rascist
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Post by cherrybibi on Feb 10, 2005 1:11:11 GMT
Well, well, well... In France, where I live, there's no strong SHARP section... We make one in 1993 on Paris & suburb but the stuff was hard, fascists were strong at this time and unity a fuckin' dream... We fight some wankers who came in ska concert ???like Specials or Toots gigs, but after 2 years, the Sharp was over. Now there is new breed and some friends try to make a new chapter but... There's no more fascist scum in the area (or very a few) and by the other side a lot of young redskins. It's OK for us, we are not anticommies wankers but that seem it's not OK for some of them. The reason? Nothing to do with politics, just a question of (taking the) power and (showin' how big are our) bollocks. I'm tired about all this stuff... I mean, I'm skin since days, antifascist and proud of the workin' class since... Fuck, now there's problems with guys who are theorically "on my side"... What can I do doctor?
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Post by Upstart on Feb 10, 2005 21:02:36 GMT
It's the crap here in The Netherlands as well, as a lot of anti-rascist skins are really into the extreme-left scene. If I say my opinion soon I as cunt will say I'm rightwing.
No, I'm not a leftwing hippie who want to talk about peace and give every criminal and rapist a second chance (and third, fourth, ...). For me some kinds of criminals have to be punished much harder.
But that doesn't make me less anti-racist, but for them it does.
Personal I'm sick of politics, but I have my personal opinion. But to keep in the skinheadstyle today for me it's:
JUSTICE NOT POLITICS
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Post by Nick UF on Feb 11, 2005 18:37:02 GMT
Oi Oi! I appreciate what Cherrybibi and Upstart say, I am often suprised by how different from the UK things are in other countries... heres a few thoughts: We dont have SHARP 'chapters' in the UK, dont know if we ever did; I think its always been a particular belief rather than a membership organisation, and it seems quite logical to me that someone can be SHARP and right wing. After all, doesn't the Republican party in the USA have anti-racist clauses in its constitution, and multi-racial members? (maybe not the best example but you know what I mean) The only organised violence in the UK (that I know of) has only been between fascist and anti-fascist. Agreed, AFA in the UK was never a skinhead organisation, but similarly it wasn't necessarily a 'left' organisation - I know that in Glasgow, AFA even included members of the Territorial Army (volunteer army reserves) who had a problem with the BNP, not your typical 'lefty hippie' types, and a lot more effective as it turned out. I remember having a discussion with skinheads from Germany who were themselves multi-racial and 'anti-racist', but were quite adamant that they were not 'anti-fascist'. I thought this was strange until I found out that 'anti-fascist' in Germany has a lot of other connotations, more like an anarchist/lifestylist/squatter politics. Anyone else heard of that? I think its sad that some skins on the left are behaving with the sort of mentality that you see within political parties - if you are not with us you are against us sort of thing. I would always keep SHARP as a banner, but have under it everyone who is not nazi. There are many in Britain (and probably elsewhere) who are anti-fascist for patriotic reasons - perhaps they had family die fighting in World War 2 - they should not be excluded from SHARP if they are right wing in other respects; if you disagree with someones views then you should be prepared to hear their argument, and try and change their mind. Obviously this doesn't apply to politically active nazis... then there are other ways to have 'a free and fair exchange of views'...
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